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		<title>By: Sebastyne</title>
		<link>http://www.sebastyne.net/2008/12/foreign-affairs-remember-to-say-please/comment-page-1/#comment-11583</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ve done something weird with the last WordPress upgrade then, because this went to the moderation queue as well! (I&#039;ll have to check it.)

Anyway, the net is a lot better for me, as I can sit back, and talk to one person at a time. Also, you can just write here, if someone doesn&#039;t want to hear me, they can just click away. In a real life situation, you have to first compete for the attention, then think of something witty and funny to say and try to figure out the personality of the listener. A lot more complicated! I&#039;m also not good with talking about trivial issues... Like I had a 15-minute conversation about toilet paper and Kleanex&#039;s once, and I was already thinking about slicing my wrists open. I understand in theory that the conversation isn&#039;t really about the tissue paper, but geesh! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;ve done something weird with the last WordPress upgrade then, because this went to the moderation queue as well! (I&#8217;ll have to check it.)</p>
<p>Anyway, the net is a lot better for me, as I can sit back, and talk to one person at a time. Also, you can just write here, if someone doesn&#8217;t want to hear me, they can just click away. In a real life situation, you have to first compete for the attention, then think of something witty and funny to say and try to figure out the personality of the listener. A lot more complicated! I&#8217;m also not good with talking about trivial issues&#8230; Like I had a 15-minute conversation about toilet paper and Kleanex&#8217;s once, and I was already thinking about slicing my wrists open. I understand in theory that the conversation isn&#8217;t really about the tissue paper, but geesh! <img src='http://www.sebastyne.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tony Single</title>
		<link>http://www.sebastyne.net/2008/12/foreign-affairs-remember-to-say-please/comment-page-1/#comment-11581</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Single</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t changed my email address, but it is quite likely that I may have mispelt it; I&#039;ve certainly done that before. :neutral: 

It&#039;s funny, but you don&#039;t come across as antisocial on your blog, but perhaps that&#039;s because communication over the internet is a whole different kettle of cyberfish. It makes one slow down when they&#039;re composing what they&#039;re going to say, unlike face to face conversation which can be more spontaneous... and therefore unpredictable.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tony Singles last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Trottersville/~3/485104057/under-sea-trottersville-87.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Under the Sea [Trottersville #87]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t changed my email address, but it is quite likely that I may have mispelt it; I&#8217;ve certainly done that before. <img src='http://www.sebastyne.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':neutral:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, but you don&#8217;t come across as antisocial on your blog, but perhaps that&#8217;s because communication over the internet is a whole different kettle of cyberfish. It makes one slow down when they&#8217;re composing what they&#8217;re going to say, unlike face to face conversation which can be more spontaneous&#8230; and therefore unpredictable.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Tony Singles last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Trottersville/~3/485104057/under-sea-trottersville-87.html" >Under the Sea [Trottersville #87]</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Sebastyne</title>
		<link>http://www.sebastyne.net/2008/12/foreign-affairs-remember-to-say-please/comment-page-1/#comment-11570</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you change an email addy or something, Tony, I don&#039;t think your comment should have gotten into the moderation queue. Anyway, I kind of understand not being able to navigate the culture you&#039;re born into, I sometimes was quite unwilling to do as expected, but I always knew when I was being anti-social or unapproachable. Here, at least I am the latter to most people I think. I see how easily my husband strikes up a conversation with people I deal with every day and never get past the required few words. He&#039;s enjoying this, as he suffered from the cold approach in Finland, where he never knew what people meant, so I suppose the tables have turned. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you change an email addy or something, Tony, I don&#8217;t think your comment should have gotten into the moderation queue. Anyway, I kind of understand not being able to navigate the culture you&#8217;re born into, I sometimes was quite unwilling to do as expected, but I always knew when I was being anti-social or unapproachable. Here, at least I am the latter to most people I think. I see how easily my husband strikes up a conversation with people I deal with every day and never get past the required few words. He&#8217;s enjoying this, as he suffered from the cold approach in Finland, where he never knew what people meant, so I suppose the tables have turned. :p</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Single</title>
		<link>http://www.sebastyne.net/2008/12/foreign-affairs-remember-to-say-please/comment-page-1/#comment-11569</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Single</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always been socially awkward, which renders me incapable of fully integrating into the culture I was born into. How pathetic is that? :razz: 

I have never been able to successfully navigate all the customs and mores attached to communicating with other people. Sometimes I&#039;m too direct, giving unsolicited attention to folks who don&#039;t want it; and sometimes I&#039;m too standoffish with people who are quite happy to chat... and I&#039;ve hardly ever been able to tell the difference between the two until it&#039;s too late!

It seems like I&#039;m constantly out of step with a culture that wants everything in &quot;soundbites&quot;. When they ask a question, they don&#039;t need a ten hour long dissertation on how that question could have many different answers based on how one might look at it. They just want a short, decisive answer so that they can move on to a life unfettered with Tony&#039;s philosophical, pseudo-intellectual babble.

So, I guess in certain cases it&#039;s a cultural thing, but in cases like mine it can also be a social awkwardness thing too. :neutral:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been socially awkward, which renders me incapable of fully integrating into the culture I was born into. How pathetic is that? <img src='http://www.sebastyne.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I have never been able to successfully navigate all the customs and mores attached to communicating with other people. Sometimes I&#8217;m too direct, giving unsolicited attention to folks who don&#8217;t want it; and sometimes I&#8217;m too standoffish with people who are quite happy to chat&#8230; and I&#8217;ve hardly ever been able to tell the difference between the two until it&#8217;s too late!</p>
<p>It seems like I&#8217;m constantly out of step with a culture that wants everything in &#8220;soundbites&#8221;. When they ask a question, they don&#8217;t need a ten hour long dissertation on how that question could have many different answers based on how one might look at it. They just want a short, decisive answer so that they can move on to a life unfettered with Tony&#8217;s philosophical, pseudo-intellectual babble.</p>
<p>So, I guess in certain cases it&#8217;s a cultural thing, but in cases like mine it can also be a social awkwardness thing too. <img src='http://www.sebastyne.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':neutral:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sebastyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Brandon, my latest favourite blogger is here! :D

No, I&#039;m not sure is cultural, but I never had such issues back home. I knew what people meant, why they behaved the way they did and why they said or didn&#039;t say something. I could tell if they didn&#039;t want to chat with me (as I am talkative by Finnish standards) and I knew when they felt unsure about how to react to me instead the other way around. They, to me, are simple in their cold friendliness, and I never had to wonder what the correct response to &quot;hei&quot; (hi) was, because regardless of where you went, that&#039;s the greeting you got. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Brandon, my latest favourite blogger is here! <img src='http://www.sebastyne.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not sure is cultural, but I never had such issues back home. I knew what people meant, why they behaved the way they did and why they said or didn&#8217;t say something. I could tell if they didn&#8217;t want to chat with me (as I am talkative by Finnish standards) and I knew when they felt unsure about how to react to me instead the other way around. They, to me, are simple in their cold friendliness, and I never had to wonder what the correct response to &#8220;hei&#8221; (hi) was, because regardless of where you went, that&#8217;s the greeting you got. <img src='http://www.sebastyne.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure it&#039;s all cultural?  I&#039;m from the US, and I live in the US now.  I have similar social problems with people as you.  Maybe I&#039;m just unfriendly though...

I&#039;ve heard things about Scandinavians being cold literally and figuratively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure it&#8217;s all cultural?  I&#8217;m from the US, and I live in the US now.  I have similar social problems with people as you.  Maybe I&#8217;m just unfriendly though&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard things about Scandinavians being cold literally and figuratively.</p>
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