Keep you f**k*n’ toddler away from my dog man!
This here is my dog. Cute, isn’t he? Looks very friendly and cuddly, doesn’t he? Most of the time, that is exactly what he is too. He is the most loving and friendly dog with adults and over 7-year olds or so, which would be all that he should be fine with in his every day life. He is not at all used to young children though, especially toddlers… And that is where we constantly get into trouble.
Now, this would not be any kind of a problem if people would just listen to me… But here’s what happened today - and this is not an isolated incident.
Me and the dog were sitting outside at a cafĂ© minding our own business, when a father carrying about a 2 year old son came to us. Without warning or questions, he shoved his kid into Primo’s face. I told him to be careful, as my dog isn’t used to kids, but the father smiled with the most heart warming smile and said “that’s fine.” Now I repeated myself, putting my hand out in the gesture, that to most people say “stop, stay away, don’t come close” and told him again, that my dog is not good with kids, and that he might bark. “That’s fine”, said the man, and pushed his kid closer, while Primo was escaping further down under the table. “He’s not used to kids” I said the third time, and he repeated, for the third time, that it was fine, and moved closer following the dog towards the depth of the table. I heard Primo letting out a low growl as he was pressing himself against my leg, so I informed the man, who I wasn’t sure heard it from the general noise. I can’t recall what he said, but my guess would be “that’s fine”. I expected that the announcement that the dog is growling, a generally understood message of aggression, would make him go away but no.
I was trying to speak calmly to the father, and reason with him and make him understand that the situation was not “fine”, because I didn’t want to scare the kid by starting screaming myself. Obviously that is what I should have done, because at that point Primo was already freaking out, and let out a huge German Sheppard size bark, that is supposed to say: “Get the fuck away from me before I bite your freaking head off!” The kid got it. He certainly got it. He started screaming, and I could make out the words “he will bite me”. All I could say was “that was what I meant” and look at him apolitically. “That’s fine” he said again, and continued to the kid “That’s fine, he’s just not used to kids…” (Like it would matter to a two year old WHY the big bad dog barked at him.) “Oh, you heard me after all?!” I thought to myself, but just clenched my teeth and tried to smile for as long as he went away. What I wanted to say, was that “No, you stupid idiot, it’s not FINE. It’s not even in the same ball park as FINE. If it would have happened, that my dog would have bitten your kid that you shoved in his face regardless of my warnings, it would have been my dogs fault and he would have ended up dead in this FINE situation. It is not FINE, because your kid will now grow up thinking that dogs hate him, when in fact it is nothing but their uncertain movement that makes dogs nervous.”
Dogs react to toddlers differently to other people. Toddlers are almost without an exception scared of dogs at some level, and therefore they approach with hesitation, even when they do it themselves. That makes the dog assume, that the kid is up to no good, and he wants to HARM ME. That is when they can react unexpectedly, by barking or by biting, and neither one is a good outcome.
What I have found, is that this is so very often a situation with men with their sons. For some reason, I’ve noticed that little boys are more scared of dogs than little girls are, maybe because it’s a male thing to see animals as beasts instead of cuddly toys, or possibly because their dads keep shoving them into faces of strange dogs. Is it some sort of a male ego thing, that you have to force your toddler to pat a dog he’s terrified off? “No kid of mine is scared of a spaniel!” And at the same time the twit makes things worse… And then they have to get out of the situation with a bit of an embarrassed look on their faces as they must admit that their kid was, after all, afraid of a spaniel. (Mothers usually ask if it is fine for the kid to pat the dog and when I tell them “probably not a good idea” they move away, which is all I’m asking.)
I was already thinking of getting a fucking pepper spray to protect my dog and their kids from stupid fathers with a point to prove, but I think I’ll just have to find that tone of voice that says: “I am fucking not kidding, man, keep your kid away from my dog or I will bite you.”
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kden (Who am I?)
1 month ago
What a beautiful dog. I can see why people approach him. But like you said, it’s not about the dad and the kid. He should have listened and thankfully nothing more of it came about; as it could have been a very sad day for all involved.
My dog is the opposite, she loves toddlers because they are face licking height. But she hates pre-teens and teens because they are loud and mouthy. I can’t leave her outside when nearby schools let out because she becomes a ferocious animal.
I love it when they dare to get up on our rock wall when she is out, they fly off of there so fast you swear they have wings. 
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timethief (Who am I?)
1 month ago
Although I have had a wide variety of dogs over the years, all except one, were rescued animals and several were not good with children at all. I have gone through the same this than you have and like you I have noticed that it’s inevitably a father pushing a son into the faces of my dogs, despite my warnings. On the other hand, the mothers I have spoken to have immediately responded.
I currently have two non-socialized chihuahua bitches who came from a horrible puppymill background. I have repeatedly told friends and strangers to stop trying to touch them until last year. I chose to let my dog bite one of my friends and now they all listen to me.
Another observation I have made as a former horse and dog trainer is that the kind of people you describe do not know how to read body language. The animals always broadscast their discomfort and anyone with half a brain cannot miss them saying - muck of! Leave me alone! Yet those with less than half the gray matter required to avoid getting bitten or kicked press on. DUH!
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Delaney (Who am I?)
1 month ago
It is very frustrating when people, especially men, don’t listen to you and think they know best. As you say, if your dog bit a kid then you would be in trouble even if it was the parent’s fault.
Maybe next time you should get between the dog and the man, look him in the eye and tell him that you will bite him if he brings his kid any closer to the dog.
Maybe that would scare ‘em off….you can hope!
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Sebastyne (Who am I?)
1 month ago
Thanks everyone
@kdens, we have a sign on our fence saying “dog lives here, please close gate” and sometimes the teenagers who go to school close by, like to whistle and try to call out to the dog. When my brother-in-law has his dog here, it’s fun to see how fast they bail out, it’s a big and viciously barking dog, that one. :p (He barks at anything thought…)
@timethief, I never thought that it would be a body language reading thing… You are probably right on the money here. (Maybe that pepper spray would not be a bad idea come to think of it.
) I was wearing sun glasses too, the big ones that cover half of your face, so he wouldn’t have seen my worried expression even if he could read faces… And then I’ve heard that men don’t take hints, you have to actually tell them what to do, so I suppose I was just not being clear enough for him. I didn’t even see him coming until he was right there, I was looking at something else, and didn’t have time to think straight. You just don’t think you have to be on high alert the whole time with a dog…
(And sometimes I think I’m too much of a fussy with him, keep him in close lead and want to see him the whole time, even if I knew exactly where he was. Like no sitting behind my chair, he has to be next to me and so forth.)
@Delaney, exactly what I thought, “Don’t worry about the dog, I will bite you.”
FANCY SWEDEN (Who am I?)
1 month ago
That is a cute dog with an innocent look…The father is a maniac who do that to he’s child Lucky that you could handle the situation.
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Sebastyne (Who am I?)
1 month ago
Thank you Fancy, for the word of confidence, but I don’t think I handled the situation at all, which was scary to me…
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Tony Single (Who am I?)
1 month ago
Good grief. I would NEVER approach a dog unless it made its intention to be patted by me quite clear. I had several bad experiences as a child, so now I am wary of any dog, no matter how friendly. The thing these people forget is that they’re not furry little people who think like people… they’re ANIMALS that think like an animal! I’m much better with dogs now though, although I do have a healthy respect for what they might be feeling at any given moment…
Sebastyne (Who am I?)
1 month ago
Tony, healthy respect is a good thing to have. What kind of bad experiences did you have? Your father pushing you in front of dogs?
Dee (Who am I?)
1 month ago
I definitely agree with you. I had a similiar situation when a neighbor wanted to come and try to play with my rockwillder while I was walking her. I told her that she is not used to strangers, but of course she didn’t listen.
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Anok (Who am I?)
1 month ago
Holy crap, WTF is wrong with people? Listen, I have a toddler, and I know that the way toddlers move, and the fact that they don’t always understand what “gentle” means + an unfamiliar dog is usually a bad combination!
The rule in our house i sthis. You don’t approach or touch an animal without asking the owner for permission, first. End of story, period.
I get mad when passersby with dogs tell Punky - “It’s OK, go ahead, you don’t have to ask.” Like hell you don’t!
In all honesty, next time someone approaches you and does that simply say in a firm force “HE BITES” That will get the person to back off enough and to shut up for long enough for you to tell them that your dog is not good with young kids, strangers, or freaky dads who don’t listen.
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Sebastyne (Who am I?)
1 month ago
You are right Anok, I know the type of “go ahead” people. They are the ones who are more concerned about people having irrational fear of dogs than no fear at all, and want to promote the “do not be afraid” approach. Not good.
I am hesitant of using “he will bite”-phrase, as I don’t really want people to think that he is dangerous. But I think a more assertive “stop right there” would be in order.